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  The New World's first Convention... - LMAO

  by tresdecu in

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  this was sent to me by a cooky uber-dub.

  apparently it's making the rounds locally...it's typical lighthearted jw satire (that they think is great!!

  smh :-/ ) .

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  Pete Z
  That perfect keynote would be just right for tomo

  It would have been perfect for him if only he had made it into the " new system"
  
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  Do not miss your flight!

  by Lets Think in

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  Pete Zahut

  Attention Ladies and Gentlemen...this is your captain speaking.

  Due to unforeseen occurrences, new light and difficulties with interpretation, flight #1975 has been lovingly delayed, indefinitely.

  As agreed to, your tickets are non refundable but rest assured, your cash will be used to purchase a better plane for ourselves and to build an additional wing onto our already fabulous existing airport. All this of course is in preparation for the influx of new passengers we expect you to ensnare for us.

  Please, no murmuring as you exit the plane, return through security and pick up the shattered pieces of your lives. Stay tuned for further instructions.

  Until then, Thank You for flying Paradise airlines....we hope we've earned your future business and unwavering loyalty.
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  The New World's first Convention... - LMAO

  by tresdecu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this was sent to me by a cooky uber-dub.

  apparently it's making the rounds locally...it's typical lighthearted jw satire (that they think is great!!

  smh :-/ ) .

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  Pete Zahut

  Public Speaking and How to Bring the House Down Every Time : - Sampson
  

  Stretching Your Budget With Home Haircuts: - Delilah

  This Old Mansion / Home Renovation Ideas: - Biblical Noteworthies

  New Light / A Hilarious Look Back At What Was Once Called the Truth (part 1) : - A Six Hour Roundtable Discussion by Former Apostates.

  That Never Happened: -Noah

  Who's the Boss/ Letting Go of the Notion of Headship - Barbara Anderson Interviews Queen Esther.

  So Your Spouse Didn't Make it / Making Better Choices the Second Time Around: - Adam

  Keynote Address: You're Here, You're Perfect But That's Not Enough. - S. Lett

  Concluding Song: "Heal the World" - M. Jackson
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  Midweek Meeting looooooooong prayers.

  by Davros in

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  one thing that aggravates me is long concluding prayers, especially at the midweek meeting.

  you work all day, rush home, grab a quick bite, dress up in meeting clothes.

  then, go to the meeting.

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  Pete Zahut

  Long Prayers:

  • Someone reached over and lightly "dinged" the bell used for timing talks in the ministry school

  • Our Hall was being remodeled so a multi congregational Memorial was held in a hotel conference facility. An old anointed Brother who had gotten too old to give the Memorial talk, was asked to give the closing prayer instead so he gave his Memorial talk anyway...in the form of a prayer. He reviewed all the points that were already covered in the Memorial talk, even quoted scriptures. The audience was huge and the ones toward the back began to murmur and talk amongst themselves. Soon people began packing up their things to go.

  • During a long prayer a frustrated little girl screamed "WHEN IS IT GONNA BE OVER !!" ( A lot of chuckles among the audience could be heard)
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  The New World's first Convention... - LMAO

  by tresdecu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this was sent to me by a cooky uber-dub.

  apparently it's making the rounds locally...it's typical lighthearted jw satire (that they think is great!!

  smh :-/ ) .

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  The Value of a Low Sodium Diet - Lot's Wife interviewed

  How to Make a Million Without Even Trying - Judge Rutherford.

  Did I Say That ?? - Fred Franz

  The Value of Letting Others Go First - Jeptha's Daughter interviewed.

  On Single Motherhood - Lots Daughters interviewed

  3000 Creative Ways to Serve Mana - Sarah and Miriam interviewed

  When Your Dad is Your Grandfather - Symposium by Lots Grandsons

  Keynote Address : What is HE Doing Here?? - Ray Franz

  Concluding Song: When Doves Cry. -Prince
  
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  Trying to get my head around these go bags

  by phoenixrising in

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  2. beliefs

  when i was looking at prepping back in the 90s i was told by several elders that we needed to just rely on the org and jehovah and not prep.

  i started to put away vacuum sealed bags of rice beans and spices anyway.

  now they have this go bag crap.

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  ^^ Sorry... my previous comment was meant for another post ^^
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  Need input: JW brainwashed fantasy vs. real world reality during evacuation

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  2. experiences

  hello all, hope everyone is doing good!!!!.

  so my wife tells me yesterday....on saturday we having a emergency disaster class on saturday.

  kinda like most corporation have and it's through zoom.

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  Pete Zahut44 minutes ago

  What George Carlin says about the Government, can also be applied to JW's. The JW organization offers the feeling...the illusion of security and JW's have become neurotic about perfection and so obsessed with security that they are willing to trade away their freedom and often their family members in exchange for the illusion of security.

  What we are going through now is a world wide disaster of sorts and all that JW's have to offer is information that they've cut and pasted from government guidelines and empty soothing words but noting in terms of tangible help. Why is this disaster any different than any other disaster she is expecting to face? If they don't have anything to offer now, what will they have to offer If there are worse disasters in store for us?

  The JW's that are currently out of work or in trouble financially, physically or mentally because of the pandemic have turned to the worlds governments to get any kind of real time help, just like everyone else has. If your family was in trouble, her JW friends might offer her encouragement over the phone for a few days but they'd have nothing to offer in the way of real help...not for very long anyway.

  My wife's Uncle is a long time Elder and his wife has regular Pioneered for decades. (wonderful people with 5 kids) At the time he was a substitute C.O and was also in charge of the finances at the assemblies etc. There was a lot of "tribulation talk" going on back around 9/11when my kids were small. In terms of the "great tribulation" we were all thinking when the towers came down, "this could be it". I was telling him that I was worried about how I was going to feed and protect them during the Tribulation if I were to loose my job. I asked him what he'd do if his business went under because the economy crashes during the tribulation. He said he'd move to where he could find work. I asked him about leaving the all Brothers and Sisters in his congregation behind who need direction and he said "Jehovah doesn't expect me to let my kids starve...I'm not in charge of other people's lives".

  This was a real eye opener for me. Up to that point, I had naively believed that the we as JW's would band together during the tribulation and the Elders would be guiding us through whatever happened. Apparently he had a much different idea about it.

  If my wife told me that she was going to dump me the minute anything went seriously wrong in the world, instead of rally around me, I'd have to seriously re-evaluate the future of our relationship.

  Ask your wife if she were to suddenly to become a lone divorcee right now, how many of her JW friends would include her in social gatherings or put up with her need for emotional support on a long term basis? Ask her what the plan is when the things she has in her "to go" bag have all been used up and there's nothing left in anyone else's to go bags either, who will she turn to if you're not there?

  JW's tend to live in a fantasy world when it come to "the tribulation" they don't think of it with any detail. Ask her for specific names of who she will turn to, what they will have to offer her and for how long. Ask her to paint a detailed picture for you and describe where she is, who she's with and where you and your boys are when she's using her "to go bag".
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  Trying to get my head around these go bags

  by phoenixrising in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was looking at prepping back in the 90s i was told by several elders that we needed to just rely on the org and jehovah and not prep.

  i started to put away vacuum sealed bags of rice beans and spices anyway.

  now they have this go bag crap.

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  Pete Zahut

  What George Carlin says about the Government, can also be applied to JW's. The JW organization offers the feeling...the illusion of security and JW's have become neurotic about perfection and so obsessed with security that they are willing to trade away their freedom and often their family members in exchange for the illusion of security.

  What we are going through now is a world wide disaster of sorts and all that JW's have to offer is information that they've cut and pasted from government guidelines and empty soothing words but noting in terms of tangible help. Why is this disaster any different than any other disaster she is expecting to face? If they don't have anything to offer now, what will they have to offer If there are worse disasters in store for us?

  The JW's that are currently out of work or in trouble financially, physically or mentally because of the pandemic have turned to the worlds governments to get any kind of real time help, just like everyone else has. If your family was in trouble, her JW friends might offer her encouragement over the phone for a few days but they'd have nothing to offer in the way of real help...not for very long anyway.

  My wife's Uncle is a long time Elder and his wife has regular Pioneered for decades. (wonderful people with 5 kids) At the time he was a substitute C.O and was also in charge of the finances at the assemblies etc. There was a lot of "tribulation talk" going on back around 9/11when my kids were small. In terms of the "great tribulation" we were all thinking when the towers came down, "this could be it". I was telling him that I was worried about how I was going to feed and protect them during the Tribulation if I were to loose my job. I asked him what he'd do if his business went under because the economy crashes during the tribulation. He said he'd move to where he could find work. I asked him about leaving the all Brothers and Sisters in his congregation behind who need direction and he said "Jehovah doesn't expect me to let my kids starve...I'm not in charge of other people's lives".

  This was a real eye opener for me. Up to that point, I had naively believed that the we as JW's would band together during the tribulation and the Elders would be guiding us through whatever happened. Apparently he had a much different idea about it.

  If my wife told me that she was going to dump me the minute anything went seriously wrong in the world, instead of rally around me, I'd have to seriously re-evaluate the future of our relationship.

  Ask your wife if she were to suddenly to become a lone divorcee right now, how many of her JW friends would include her in social gatherings or put up with her need for emotional support on a long term basis? Ask her what the plan is when the things she has in her "to go" bag have all been used up and there's nothing left in anyone else's to go bags either, who will she turn to if you're not there?

  JW's tend to live in a fantasy world when it come to "the tribulation" they don't think of it with any detail. Ask her for specific names of who she will turn to, what they will have to offer her and for how long. Ask her to paint a detailed picture for you and describe where she is, who she's with and where you and your boys are when she's using her "to go bag".
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  Number of Kingdom Halls Worldwide

  by wachttorenkijker in

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  2. scandals

  how many kingdom halls are there worldwide?

  even better how many in the years 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019.. i'm asking this to get a picture of the total real estate owning of the jw and how this become to the money-cow in these days..

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  Pete Zahut

  IMO, if you want people to take you seriously, you need to talk in a more subdued and serious manner.

  I agree...I try to listen to them but rather than simply reporting their findings, they use it mock and ridicule. Maybe it's just me but, their obviously extensive research seems to come from a place of gleeful vindictiveness rather than one of concern for those who are having or have had difficulty with the Watchtower organization. To me, they are the opposite of Barbara Anderson.

  I try to overlook this and focus on the information they present but they often remind me of a couple of jeering mean kids on the playground of some small town school, who gang up on the gay kid who just moved in from the city . To me, they sometimes come across as bullies when they look back and forth at one another for reassurance as they point out even the most feeble bit of information they can find to stick it to the Watchtower.

  It's too bad bad because often they do have some useful information to share but you have to be willing to get past the way it's presented. Having said that, depending upon what stage of leaving one is in, they may be just what some people need. they obviously have a following.
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  1 Corinthians 15:26

  by Doug Mason in

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  you will die.

  i will die.

  those who have gone before us, the great and the small, the powerful and the weak, have shared the common fate of dying.

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  Freddy Franz gave a talk about how popular that saying was and how it drove people to the 'truth'. A big smile on his stupid face almost breaking into gleeful expressions.

  I used to sit by him at the GB table when I was in Bethel. He didn't seem like someone who enjoyed his life very much and spent it looking outwardly for answers to what was wrong with him, inwardly. He seemed like someone who wouldn't know what to do with himself if there wasn't something going on in the world to find fault with or if he wasn't obsessed and distracted from reality by some future magical dream.